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Compactdrive PD70X Review

June 24, 2005 - 01:32 AM

A year ago when compact flash cards were $200/gb, personal storage devices appeared to be a savior for photographers that took a lot of photos. Unfortunately, the PSD (personal storage device) never solidified itself as a reliable alternative to packing pockets with expensive compact flash cards. They weren't that reliable; they were big and heavy and had slow transfer speeds. To top it all off, the battery life just... well... sucked. Who needs a 20 gb hard drive when you can only transfer 2gb per charge?

Fast-forward to today. Prices of CF cards have dropped, but megapixels have risen. So is a PSD now a viable solution for dumping your photos to while you're on the go?

After a lot of research, I decided on the Compactdrive PD70X (the successor to the PD7X). Comparisson

Compactdrive claims that the PD70X is able to transfer from card to hd at 16mb/s (that's a blazing 11.2mb/s faster than the PD7x). It has a faster AA charger, regulators, no exposed buttons, more transfer per charge, etc) Just looking at the specs, it is apparent that this new unit (and the PD7x for that matter) meets the demands of today's photographer. The unit can transfer a lot per charge and transfers are relatively fast.

Ordering was easy. Eastgear seems to be one of the only "US" (they're actually in Singapore) distributor of Compactdrives. I decided on the 40gb version since I probably won't be taking more than 40gb of photos on a single trip. mamoru

The shipping is a bit pricey, but it's Fedex 1-3 day, which happened to get to me in one day. Will the unit live up to its claims??

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The box arrived.. well, it arrived.

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The box outer box was ripped, but inside it was well packaged. (I got the 4 free NiMh rechargeables too!)




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Inside the box, you'll find the manual, AC/car chargers, data cable, case, and PD70X unit.

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The PD70X looks pretty slick. It won't win any design awards, but the brushed gunmetal is very nice.

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Flipping open the right side of the PD70X reveals everything you need to control it. The on/off switch, xD/MS/MS Pro/MMC/SD slot, CF slot, the control dial, usb plug, and an activity light. The inside of the lid cover has common error codes in case the PD70X will throw one up, which comes in handy in case you're not the type of person to carry a PSD manual in your pocket everywhere you go. The command dial is easy to use, you can spin it up/down or push it in.

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The PD70X comes with a sweet nylon? case with a red L stripe mamoru

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Eastgear ships their unit with Samsung 5200rpm drives.

As you can see, it isn't the smallest unit around. Opening it up reveals that it is pretty much the dimensions of a laptop hard drive with the width of an AA over it, which makes a lot of sense. In this case size is something you will sacrifice for convenience. Not having to deal with proprietary batteries may become a life saver down the line when you have to dump and you run low on power. Most photographers who use external flash guns will probably have a couple of AA's lying around as well.


Operation
Operation isn't as straight forward as I would like. I'm the type of person that won't look at the manual unless the controls on a unit are just plain unintuitive. Well, this unit requires that you look at the manual. Only having three "buttons" means that you're going to have to do some crazy stuff like standing on one leg while pressing a button down to do some stuff (kidding).

Turning the unit on is easy as flipping a switch. When you turn the unit on without a CF card or memory card in it, it begins to read how much free memory is left on the hard drive. This is a bit annoying because you won't be able to transfer memory until after it does this. The alternative is to inser the CF card into the unit before turning it on. After this, transfering is as easy as pressing the command dial down.

Transferring is speedy. When it is done transferring, you can switch cards and begin a second transfer ONLY if you do it within 30 seconds. This, in my mind, is horrible. The unit is so fast that you insert a card, turn it on, press the button and set the unit down. When you turn around to put a new card in the unit has already been done for over 30 seconds, so you can't do a quick swap and transfer. The only way around this is to turn the unit on/off and do a new transfer. This wasn't a big deal to me, but it is a bit annoying so I thought I would mention it.

The Manual
As I mentioned, reading the manual is necessary. Unfortunately, it isn't well written (although more well written than a Sigma manual...) I ran into a problem with formatting the hard drive and apparently the manual has TWO sections for formatting the hard drive. The second is at the end of the manual, so I totally overlooked it. (It involves making a file on a cf card, inserting it into the unit, turning it on while pressing down the dial and then scrolling down, up, then pressing down again rice )

Build
The construction is solid. One thing to note is that there doesn't seem to be any space between the HD and the rear cover. The rear is a sheet of aluminum? or some type of metal meaning that there isn't that much material to absorb impact. You probably don't want to drop this unit (although you'd be a fool to drop it anyway).

The size is pretty compact and can fit into a bag no problem.

Unit in ACTION!!
In the field, the unit will be used to dump cards to when I fill them up. I own two 1gb Sandisk Ultra II's, so after I fill one up, I will dump and then use the other one. You keep repeating this cycle until you fill up 40gb of pictures or you run out of batteries. tongue

Each card you transfer to the unit is placed into a new folder (Starting from 0000, then going to 0001, etc.)

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When a transfer is done, a smiley face and check mark are shown if the transfer was successful. The amount of data transfered and number of files is on the display for verification purposes. This information will stay on the display until you turn the unit off or press the command dial within thirty seconds (which will allow you to dump another card)

If you happen to turn the unit off and want to verify that you transfered information, it becomes a little more difficult as the unit can only navigate one direction (starting from 0000 to 0001, etc) but nevertheless, if you're curious you can check it, although I would try to verify when the smiley face first comes up if possible. Scrolling to the 30th directory might be a pain.

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All the same information is available when scrolling through the directories, except there is no smiley face. hs

Transfering the images to the computer, it's as simple as plugging the data cable into the computer and then into the unit and turning the unit on.

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Windows XP had zero problems locating my unit and allocating a drive letter to it. An interesting aspect of the unit is that it will act as a very expensive card reader as well. If you have a compact flash card in the unit and you plug it in, it will assign two drive letters, one for the unit itself (the hd) and the other one for the card. Note: if you take the card out and put a new one in, it won't recognize it until you turn the unit on/off.

Transfering is as easy as drag/drop. You can view the images on the HD, you can erase folders, etc. Note: the unit does transfer images from the cards directly, meaning all folder architecture is maintained from the card to the unit

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Tests
The first thing I wanted to test was the transfer speed from card to the unit. Compactdrive claims that the maximum transfer speed is 16mb/s. This is faster than my fastest CF card can transfer, so in this case the bottleneck seems to be the card.

Test #1 856mb - 1 gb Sandisk Ultra II - 105.2 sec 8.136mb/s
Test #2 856mb - 1 gb Sandisk Ultra II - 104.6 sec 8.184mb/s
Test #3 947mb - 1 gb Sandisk Ultra II - 115 sec 8.235mb/s
Test #4 245mb - 512 mb Lexar 16x - 45.6 sec 5.373mb/s
Test #5 429mb - 512 mb Lexar 16x - 79.6 sec 5.39mb/s

One thing to note about this test is that transfer speeds are very fast. The 856mb transfers had a lot of small jpg files and the 947mb had larger RAW files mixed with jpgs. The device seems to handle transferring larger files a lot faster than it transfers smaller jpg files, but not by much. For reference/comparison, this site recorded speeds of 3.88mb/s-4.8mb/s for the PD7x, so it is very apparent that the PD70x is a lot faster.

What about transfer from the PD70X to the computer? Aparently, the unit transfers from card to the HD faster than it transfers from unit to the computer bowdown I recorded times of 107.3 and 104 seconds for 856mb (two different hard drives). This comes out to 7.977mb/s and 8.231mb/s respectively.

How much can it transfer per charge?
For this test, I charged up a fresh set of Energizer 2300mAh batteries (which happened to win the Great Battery Shootout). The manual states several times that NiMh batteries will lose charge overtime, so to get a maximum amount of transfers, you should charge the batteries before you use it instead of the week before.

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Transferring was a pain because of the fast transfer speeds. It took a lot of attention, but I managed to transfer 35gb before the unit seemed to bog down. On the 35th transfer, the unit corrupted a folder and I couldn't delete the folder. (this is why I tried to format the HD) I probably could've transferred more files if this problem didn't happen. I'm guessing I could fill up my 40gb unit before charge ran out, as I had it plugged in for quite a while before I got the Err. 20 or "Please replace the batteries"


Conclusion
Inititally, I wanted to buy the Nexto CF, but there are no US distributors. The little information that I got on the unit pretty much directed me towards their website where you can e-mail and order one. Research threw around a ballpark number of 180 dollars for just the unit. I e-mailed and never got a response. Supposedly, the Nexto CF is the fastest personal storage device on the market and has a firewire connection instead of USB2 like the PD70X.

My tests of the PD70X show that it is just as fast as the Nexto or maybe just a TAD slower. This site claims that the NextoCF can pull transfers at around 9mb/s which might just be CF card variation or maybe the unit is marginally faster than the PD70X.

Compared to units like the Epson P-2000, the PD70X proves itself quite a capable unit in terms of usability. The P-2000 boasts transfer speeds of 2.2-2.5mb/s with Ultra IIs. My test with the PD70X yielded results of over 8mb/s, which is nearly 6mb/s faster than the P-2000. Fhoude reports 13gb of transfer on one battery charge for the P-2000 versus my findings of over 35GB transfer per 4 AA's. You can buy extra batteries for the P-2000.. for 60-70 dollars a piece, but the PD70X uses AA's which are cheaper and easier to come by. smiles

The PD70X doesn't have a display, hell the small screen isn't even backlit (I wish it was). It doesn't have a file browser (you can verify the size of the directory and how many files, but not each file individually). You can't go through and delete folders. Hell, you can't do much except format the HD (with the use of a CF card and secret code inputs - up down up down a b a b start select anyone?) or transfer cards to the hd (which it is VERY good at), but it doesn't need to really do anything extraordinary. This is a no frills PSD and it is very good at what it does. It might not impress anyone on a forum, but the peppy transfer speeds get the job done and they get the job done very quickly and reliably. If you're looking for a PSD for a trip or just to dump files on, I highly recommend this unit.

Comments

how much was it? im thinking about getting one. i was about to get the pd7x until i read some reviews that it was built like a piece of shit, which was why it was discontinued.

Posted by: christ at June 24, 2005 11:14 AM

The PD7X actually wasn't discontinued. I actually looked at it before deciding on the PD70X and stumbled upon the "distirbutor" website you're talking about. You can see the comments about it here: http://www.3hdigital.com/ (from the real manufacturer, disputing the claims)


Out of all of the reviews I've heard from people, none have complained about reliability, which is why I decided to buy a compactdrive at all. My main reason for the PD70X over the PD7X was the faster charging times (because if I'm on a trip, I want to charge ASAP), the faster transfer speeds (~8 vs ~5) hidden buttons, and sadly the gunmetal exterior


I got it for ~235 shipped from Eastgear with a 40gb hard drive, but you can spend more for larger hard drives.

Posted by: phi at June 24, 2005 02:37 PM

Hi Phi, great review! Hope you enjoy your PD70X!

Best Regards,
Arnold
www.mrgadget.com.au

Posted by: Arnold aka Mr.Gadget Australia at June 25, 2005 06:19 AM

Thanks for the good review!

You wrote that: "On the 35th transfer, the unit corrupted a folder". That seems a little scary to me. Do you have any idea what happend? And why?

Did the unit warn you about the corrupted folder so that you could try again or avoid deleteing the files from the memory card? Or was data silently lost?

Posted by: Ulrik at June 25, 2005 02:47 PM

Ulrik, I'm not completely sure what happened. The folder failed to upload completely and gave me a Err 14 ( which is incompatable memory card ). For the test, I was using the same memory card transfering over and over. I tried a couple more times and with another card and it kept giving me an error, so I decided to check on the computer. I deleted all the folders, but it wouldn't let me delete the error folders. It said "corrupted data" and wouldn't let me delete them.


Took a while to figure out how to format the hard drive, but I finally figured it out (last couple pages of the manual). After that, everything seemed to work again. I scanned the disk for errors, and didn't find anything. I'm not really sure what happened, but I used the unit for 20 transfers (small ones) today and nothing happened. I'll post again if I encounter the problem again.


Also, I'm estimating that the unit can transfer 38-43 1gb card transfers. The unit seems to drain a lot more power when plugged into the computer via USB than when actually transfering. I'm guessing this is because it is spinning. I didn't get the Err 20 until after I plugged the unit into my computer for 5+ minutes to try to figure out what was wrong. At this point, I was on transfer number 35.

Posted by: phi at June 25, 2005 07:32 PM

nice writeup phi. objective.

how different would you say is the battery test from real world conditions?

Posted by: Zach at June 27, 2005 11:40 AM

I've used it twice in real world conditions. The first time I got 25 256mb transfers in (not my cards) and the batteries still showed full bars. This is about 6.25 gb, so that's pretty much expected. The second time saw limited usage. I can't imagine a situation where you'd shoot 40gb of photos. That's almost 5,000 pictures in RAW format, so I think it is quite plausable to say that I probably won't run out of batteries for what I use it for, but...


I could see how on a long trip this pose a potential problem. The fact that there is no browser on the PD70x, no picture display, etc. means that you're only powering on and off the unit to dump photos. In my real world testing, I quickly learned that you don't even need to use the LCD to dump. When you turn the unit on, the light turns red (reading hd) then green immediately. With the card already in the unit, press the button and the green light begins to flash. When it stops, it's done. You can verify on LCD and shut the unit off. I'm assuming in real world conditions, you won't get 40gb transfers because of the depleting cells in NiMh batteries. This is with the assumption that it will require multiple days for you to fill up the card (I can't imagine taking 4,000 photos in a day )


Fortunately, if you're gone that long and you're in a bind you have two options.


1) Plug the unit in using the AC adapter or car charger, both of which were part of my package from eastgear (they said the car charger was a bonus in the product description so ymmv)
2) Use spare AA's.


I personally have 24+ AA's that I have for my flash units, so if I was really really in a bind with no power, I could always bum 4 AA's off of my flash supply.


Also, after a card transfer the unit remains on. I'm not sure how much battery power is being drained in this state, but you must shut it off to turn it off after you're done with your transfer. In real world conditions, I would turn the unit off right after the transfer was done. In my brief testing where I got 35gb transfers, I didn't want to dedicate the entire time to transfering the same card over and over, so sometimes the unit would just be sitting there powered on. I'm not sure whether or not this would affect the power as I don't know how much it drains.


As far as I can tell, though, this unit seems to be capable of the most transfer per charge of any of the PSDs currently on the market. Couple this with the fact that the power source it uses is readily available and considerably cheap (15-20$ for 12 NiMh AA's vs 60-70 for a proprietary battery or an internal one that can't be replaced) and the PD70X looks even more appealing. I personally jumped for the 40gb because I don't go on many long trips, but I can imagine someone buying a 100+ gb drive and popping it into a PD70X case and actually utilizing all of the hard drive space on it.


I'm going to Sedona this weekend and will update my review accordingly. This is the main reason I bought the unit (that and for when I shoot events). I think going to Arizona will be a good test as I'm camping and won't have power readily available (other than my batteries and breif visits with a car charger). The heat and constant moving around will also test how durable the unit is. Will update next week.

Posted by: phi at June 27, 2005 04:19 PM

Hi, how can one verify if all the files have been copied? I know the LCD displays the number of files and total size of the directory - can it be compared to what's on the CF card? Plus does it just replicate the directory structure on the CF card - in which case there could be quite a few directories when transferring a few days worth.

Posted by: Kram at June 28, 2005 03:29 AM

Kram, I updated the review for you. The unit does copy the cards directly to the hd, maintaining the same folder architecture as was on the card. After transfer is completed, there will be a smiley face and the data transfered + number of files transfered. You can verify here. You can also go back and verify by going through the folders, although this process seems to be more tedious.

Posted by: phi at June 28, 2005 11:26 AM

How much was the Fedex shipping to the USA? How long did the shipping take?

Posted by: Charlie at July 1, 2005 10:15 AM

Charlie, shipping was about 23 dollars if I can recall correctly. It is 1-3 day Fedex shipping. For me it took only 2 days, although some people might get it sooner or later.

Posted by: phi at July 1, 2005 08:07 PM

Hi,
Most of people bought this PSD for storing photo files. Do you think I can use it to transfer video files like mpg from microdrive? I have searched and found no one mentioning about option.
Thanks.
Phuong

Posted by: Phuong Pham at July 8, 2005 12:36 PM

Phuong, I don't see a problem with it storing any other type of file. All it does when it transfers from the card to the unit is it copies all of the content over, folder structure and all. It isn't picky about what it's transfering over as long as it is transfering soemthing over. You can use the unit as a portable HD as well by using the included USB cord and plugging into one computer, transfering files over, then plugging it into another computer etc.

Posted by: phi at July 12, 2005 12:31 PM

Excellent review there, I have now ordered this unit and hope to be as happy as you are with yours phi..

Posted by: Tim at July 18, 2005 12:13 PM

Tim, I'm sure you'll love this unit. It's a handy tool to have around, especially at events or on trips.

Posted by: phi at July 19, 2005 08:49 PM

How can I format easily the HD without connecting the unit to the PC?
(..with the use of a CF card and secret code inputs - up down up down a b a b start select anyone????)
What to write on the CF card and how?
Thanks

Posted by: Gian at July 21, 2005 09:15 AM

Hi there people, first of all and excellent review by phidong.com.

I've just bought the PD70X for my photography and I am very impressed with the card to HD performance and battery life. The contens of the box and the manual is more than sufficient.

I have one problem: copying files from my computer HD with a USB 2.0 port to my PD70X device goes very very slow (4,5 GB takes over 25 minutes). The LED flashes red/green green/red for the first 5 minutes, then it goes to red.

Question: has anybody encountered this problem and what have you done to solve the problem?

All the best,
Drew

Posted by: Andrew at July 21, 2005 11:33 PM

Nice review indeed!

I did some testing when I got mine (the very first shipment). I was using 2GB Lexar 80x and I was getting 10MB/s, copying RAW files. Also, I was getting more than 70GB with 2500mAh batteries on one charge (4200rpm HD with 8MG buffer). I even accidentally dropped it once while copying files from the CF to 70X. No problems whatsoever.

After some 450GB of transferred files, using the unit in every situation, I didn't find anything bad about it. Very durable, reliable, extremely fast and the longest battery life.

I can highly recommend it.

Cheers.

Posted by: Alex at July 24, 2005 10:58 PM

Hi there,
one question: does this copy, or move the pics from the CF card? (or can you choose either?)
Thanks!
M

Posted by: mike at July 25, 2005 10:15 PM

Hey Phi, thanks for the review. I just bought my PD70X with a 40GB hard disk yesterday thanks to your review.

Havent given it a thorough workout - but looks to be working fine.

Cheers, Kram

Posted by: Kram at July 27, 2005 01:34 AM

Gian, instructions for formatting the hard drive can be found near the end of the manual (skip the first set of instructions in the beginning). You have to put a file on your CF card and then rename it to something (it escapes me at this moment) and then turn on the unit while pressing down the button. Check the manual, it's all there.. just really poorly organized.

Posted by: phi at July 27, 2005 10:27 AM

Mike, the unit will only copy pictures/files/folders from the card to the unit so you'll have to format the card in camera after dumping.

Posted by: phi at July 27, 2005 10:28 AM

Drew,
That sounds like an odd problem. Try plugging the unit in when you transfer and make sure the usb port you're plugging into is USB2. I get a solid 7.5-8mb/s when transfering from my unit to hard drive, which is a bit slower than the unit transfers from card to unit. Heh..

Posted by: phi at July 27, 2005 10:30 AM

Received my 70X with a 40G HD from Eastgear yesterday, just in time for the trip to Italy next week Thanks for your recommendations, Phi.

I tried to run the CDFormater.exe downloaded from 3digital.com and it kept saying that it could not find the Drvie or I was not the Administrator. Does anybody have the same problem? I know the HD can be formatted without a PC, but I just want to try it.

Other than that, the unit seems to be working very well.

BTW, it took full 4 HOURS to charge the set of brand new Sanyo 2500 batteies that Eastgear threw in for free.


IndianaWes

Posted by: Wes at July 27, 2005 11:15 AM

Jst got my unit today, I just wonder is that a way to put sme shock absorbing material between the hdd and the aluminium cover ( a sponge or something), anyone tried that before?

Posted by: learnyee at July 27, 2005 09:25 PM

Wes,
The HD formater from computer only works with the older PD7X apparently. You'll have to follow the second set of instructions (from the rear of the manual) to format the card inside the unit.


Learnyee,
I'm not sure if this would even be helpful. Laptop hard drives are made to take a bit of a beating, but in order for foam or anything to protect the hard drive, there has to be some impact space. You'll just compress the foam onto the hd/case and might make matters worse. Mine slipped out of my hand from a short distance and it is still working fine *knock on wood* but it's kind of hard to drop the unit. Just don't shake it around like a polaroid picture when it is spinning I guess.

Posted by: phi at July 28, 2005 11:13 AM

Has anyone looked at the Vosonic VP2260 and if so how does it compare to the 70X. I know it is lighter and smaller. Also where do I get the best price for the 70X in the US? Thx

Posted by: Bob at July 28, 2005 06:11 PM

First of all, congratulations for this very high quality review. It definitely convinced me that this is the unit I need.
However, I just went on EastGear for placing my purchase, and they do not offer any battery with it ?
Did you get a special treatment, or have I missed something ?
Thanks for your help on this matter !

Posted by: Gautier at August 9, 2005 08:36 AM

Gautier, they were out of stock when I ordered mine so they gave a small incentive to place an order while they didn't have any in stock.

enjoy your unit!

Posted by: phi at August 10, 2005 12:09 AM

Good point for you and for them too !
I may just be hoping that they were out of stock now !
Thanks for your quick answer.

Posted by: Gautier at August 10, 2005 12:16 AM

I have just passed my order.
I am pleased to let you know that they still have this offer including the PD70X 40Go plus blister of 4 Sanyo 2500 mAh plus car charger !
It does not appear in the final invoice, but I will let you know if included in the final package when received.

Posted by: Gautier at August 10, 2005 02:41 AM

J'oubliais l'adresse qui détaille cette offre :
http://www.eastgear.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=17_66&products_id=444

Posted by: Gautier at August 10, 2005 04:12 AM

Thank you for the informative review! Does the card door shut with a CF II card inside and downloading? Thanks

Posted by: Chris at August 13, 2005 09:48 PM

Chris, the CF card sticks out a little bit. The door won't shut.

Posted by: phi at August 14, 2005 10:27 AM

Thank you Phi. Much appreciated.

Posted by: Chris at August 14, 2005 04:01 PM

Hi Phi, what an extensive review! Thanks! Can you please tell me if I can also use it as a plain external hard drive too?
If it is plugged into a notebook, will it automatically shift power source to the notebook? Or will it continue to drain its batteries?

Posted by: TG at August 20, 2005 10:15 PM

The unit performed beatifully during our 2-week vacation. The battery indicator still showed full after 9 transfers for nearly 10 Gig of data, and the transfer speed was amazingly fast.

However, it's a totally different story when I copied the contents of the unit back to my computer. It took 2 HOURS. I am pretty sure it was plugged into the USB2 port. Did anyone have the same experience? Is there a way to verify that it is indeed USB2 not USB?

Posted by: Wes at August 23, 2005 11:46 AM

TG,
The USB port doesn't seem to have enough power to actually recharge the unit while it is in use. You can plug it in though. I also noticed that the unit drains quite a bit more power while it is plugged into the computer and running vs. when it is transfering from a card to the unit, so having an outlet powersource while plugged into the computer is a kind of important. It can definitely be used as an external hard drive though.


Wes,
I'm glad everything worked out for you. Transfer speed is indeed very fast. I noticed that the unit is slower while transfering from unit to computer vs from card to unit, but 2 hours for 10gb of data is a lot slower than the speeds that I observed (about 1mb/s slower than card to unit). Try calculating the transfer speed and see how fast it is. I get around 7-8mb/s from unit to computer.

Posted by: phi at August 23, 2005 05:00 PM

Hi,

thanks for the excellent review.

I have a couple of HD-related questions:

1. any word on the maximum HD size? units are being shipped with HDs up to 80GB or without HD, and I'm considering a 100GB or larger, since I'll be shooting high-res AVIs on trips.

2. heat generation seems to be an issue, according to a review on http://d30.info/reviews/PD70x/
That would indicate a possible preference for 4200 rpm drives, which don't run quite as hot as 5400s (ball - vs fluid bearing is also discussed on the abovementioned page).
Question- does drive speed constitute a possible bottleneck in the transfer speeds (especially card->HD) on this device?

Thank you,
Delgado

Posted by: Delgado at August 28, 2005 01:29 PM

Happy customer for the last weeks, as I received in due time this beautiful unit from EastGear.
However, I have started using it to download my RAW files from my Canon EOS300D, and all of them are corrupted, or uncompletely downloaded from the CF card
As I intend to shoot pictures only in RAW format from now on, I really need to ensure that the files downloaded are usable.
Anyone have experienced such issue, and how was it solved ?
If not, any advice will be highly welcome.
Please note that all other type of formats are working well : I have tried JPEGs from CF and MS, MP3, MSOffice docs... and none corrupted.

Posted by: Gautier at September 1, 2005 02:34 AM

Thanks for an excellent review, and for the archive of follow-up comments. Very helpful!
Thank you, Murray

Posted by: Murray at September 5, 2005 11:43 AM

Hi,
Thanks for the informative review.

Two questions:

1. As alluded to by someone else, can another hard drive be put in the unit and if so, what would the parameters of the drive be?

2. Also brought up by someone else, can the unit transfer Canon .crw and .cr2 Raw files?

Many thanks.

Posted by: Andrew at September 18, 2005 05:29 AM

I ordered a PD70X from EastGear last week. So far, I've been pleased with it. I've tested it against 8 or so full 1-Gig copies of Compact Flash cards and have seen no failures in the copies. The method I used was to copy the cards to the PD70X and then compare that to copies that were read by a card reader into the computer. Sure, I would have preferred it if the PD70X also did some kind of verify comparison. If that was optional, I'd be happy to take the hit on the copy time.

I have had a couple of odd occurrences so far. Sometimes, when you power up the unit, the drive will power up and the green light will come on. But, the on-off switch will not turn the unit back off. I end up having to open up the battery compartment, which is weak and therefor will likely break at some point.

The other problem I've had is, when trying to read a card, that the LCD doesn't display anything. After putting the card in the slot and switching on, you hear the drive come up, but there is no indication of any activity. Turning the PD70X off and back on seems to solve that problem. I don't find any incomplete directories or such, so the PD70X must just not be booting up correctly.

So far, so good.

(My copies were for my Canon 300D, so the .crw files copy just fine. Remember, you can't view the files, so it doesn't really matter what their formats are. The PD70X just blindly makes a copy of the Compact Flash card.

I bought my PD70X with the 60 Gig hard drive installed. It is possible to download the manual from CompactDrive.com, so that should have information on the drive installation, etc.)

Posted by: Paul at September 21, 2005 09:31 AM

This is to complement my previous message dated 1st of September. As said, I encountered some corrupted files copied on the PD70X. After further investigation, it appeared that my CF card was having some kind of trouble. Having contacted the manufacturer, they have exchanged this card with a brand new one, which has been working perfectly well when downloading my EOS300D Raw files (*.crw)
Back to the happy customer !

Posted by: Gautier at September 26, 2005 10:57 AM

I'm having some problems when I changed the original hard disk that came with the unit to another. It could not detect the hard disk properly although I have formatted it in DOS. It shows error 21 mainly.
The only significant difference was power requirement for original hard disk was 5V 0.7A whereas the changed hard disk was 5V 1.0A.
It seems to me that the unit really required quite fully charged batteries to function.

Anyone care to comment?

Posted by: Micah at October 1, 2005 09:20 AM

Someone mentioned having problems with Raw files. I used the PD70X for a trip to Ireland and downloaded over 40 gig, all of which were Raw files.

Posted by: Dee at October 3, 2005 12:45 PM

Could someone please check that it will work on a Win98SE machine?

Thanks,

Wanderer

Posted by: Wanderer at October 13, 2005 06:57 AM

Excellent review, thanks. I just bought one with 80G drive from EastGear (2 days to the US).

I would love be able to use it with lithium AA's though... the self-discharge of NiMH's is a problem on long trips. Can anyone think of a reason not to try this?

Posted by: Karl at October 14, 2005 08:13 AM

I just bought the 40Gb drive version from EastGear.
"It does everything it says on the tin"
Very satisfied except for just one thing.
When connected to the PC USB2 I can read all the files from the PD70X and write back allsorts of data - no problem. However the PC refuses to reformat the PD70X the reformat screen shos 37.2Gb but doesnt allow any setting of FAT2 etc. the rest of the form is frozen. I havnt tried the FORMAT70.CMD trick yet mainly because I cant get the PD70X to format the card in FAT16 mode.
Any one else seen this - or is it just my PC
Running XP by the way all updates.

Posted by: Bob Sowell at October 19, 2005 08:18 AM

Bob, I couldn't reformat the unit using my computer either. I had to use the FORMAT70.CMD on the cf card trick. that seemed to work fine though.

Posted by: phi dong at October 19, 2005 08:10 PM

phi
Big smile on my face now - finaly found a spare SD card and performed the FORMAt70.CMD trick. As you say works like a dream.
The manual says "prepare a memory card berween 256Mb and 2Gb" . I had a useless 16 Mb card that came with my new camera. It seems to work just fine so probably any size card will do!!
Thanks for the help!!

Posted by: Bob Sowell at October 21, 2005 12:32 AM

Karl,
Godfrey @ photo.net (link: http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CYlR)

seems to be using Lithiums as well as NimH batteries with his PD70X.


eastgear also lists the unit as being able to:
[Use] 4 pcs of AA size [batteries] (NiMH rechargeable, alkaline, lithium)

Hope this helps!

Posted by: phidong at October 24, 2005 02:35 AM

Firstly, Phil many thanks for the excellent and informative review that you have undertaken.

Secondly, thanks to everyone else who has contributed, I have been convinced that I should go for this item as opposed to the Wolverine FlashPac Memory.

Can’t wait for it to arrive.

Posted by: Pank Mehta at October 26, 2005 05:54 AM

Thanks for the excellent review. Anyone know if it takes 2.5" Hard Drives or the 1.8" variety?

Posted by: Deeps at October 31, 2005 10:04 AM

Has anyone tried upgrading to the latest version V2.1 ??

This gives you "advanced 24bit hardware based verification", folder naming etc...

See www.hyperdrive.com

I am just about to go on holiday for 4 weeks and would have loved to updrade to the verification version, but prefer to play safe till I get back. That is, unless anyone else has tried it http://www.phidong.com/images/smiles/bowdown.gif

Posted by: Bob Sowell at November 6, 2005 02:25 AM

I saw the update. I think I'm going to wait for the usb transfer speeds increase "coming soon" version of the firmware upgrade before I do anything.

Posted by: phi at November 6, 2005 10:05 PM

I've just bought a PD70X in Switzerland (under the name of dip wiesel x2).
The device seems to function well, except for an error 19 (cannot detect hard disk) from time to time, when I start it up (connected to AC without batteries). When I shut it down and start anew, the error usually disapears.
The device was shipped with hard disk installed. I coundn't figure out, what kind of hard disk they installed as i don't want to open it (break the seal) and windows doesn't give any indication.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Thomas

Posted by: Thomas at November 22, 2005 12:00 AM

I have just tried and failed to upgrade my PD70X to version 2

Everything went smoothly during the update showing numbers increasing on the lcd up to 34 - then stopped with error No. 21

This error isnt mentioned in the update directions.

Others beware - I now have a useless PD70X until i can get some repairs.

Posted by: Bob Sowell at December 14, 2005 04:53 AM

I've bought PD70x unit in Germany in December 2005 and I installed my own 80GB7200RPM Travelstar disk.
It works fine. I can only confirm that transfer rate in USB mode is pretty disappointing (~8000kB/s), actually slower than in autonomous mode.

I mainly use it as USB backup device and card reader for my desktop PC.
It makes me sad when I remember my external USB2 box APACER Share Steno I had before with it's lightning speed (~23000kB/s) using the very same Travelstar disk.
On the other hand APACER had very slow OTG chip in autonomous mode (~2000kB/s). Downloading data from camera took ages and made me do it other way.

Bob is damn right with his last remark.
When I got the PD70x and found in download section new FW with some improvements, I wanted to update my device of course.
Despite of >>exactly<< following the instructions the flashing ended with error no. 21.
I ended with the same result and device was DEAD in card/autonomous mode (but USB mode worked).
I sent it back to service center for repair.

I just think I will need a lot of courage and luck to make FW update nexttime when Compactdrive makes it available. They promise increased USB transfer rate that's why it is really tempting.

Posted by: Steev at February 15, 2006 12:09 PM

Sent my PD70X back for repair after the hardware upate failure.

Have to give them praise for the rapid service, - device was sent back by return post (Fedex). All appear to be ok now with copy and verify which is what I wanted. All my 15Gb of photos were still there untouched too.

I thought I had followed the update directions exactly as Steev above, but I did the update with the power adaptor and a fully charged set of batteries. I wonder if the batteries should have been removed, they may limit the available voltage from the adaptor.

Error 21 is apparently power fqailure

The directions simply say use the external power supply.

Posted by: Bob Sowell at February 19, 2006 01:08 AM

Bob,

That's an interesting thing to make note of since the PD70X charges the batteries when the power adaptor is plugged in. That could be it!

Posted by: phidong at February 19, 2006 08:16 PM

Anyone have any experience with a Mac? Dont see why it wouldnt work, but everyone above looks to be a peecee user. . .
Thx!

Posted by: Joshua LaCunha at March 7, 2006 10:57 PM

Yes i am interested in any Mac issues also as i am thinking of buying a PD70X also.I will be downloading files from a D200 Nikon to an G5 Imac.

Posted by: Lyndon at March 12, 2006 12:02 AM

There are no drivers for PCs, when you plug the unit into the computer it acts as an external hard drive. I'm assuming that it should work with macs in a similar fashion.

The box does list OS9 and OSX as compatible operating systems (plug and play) if that is any indication of its usability there.

Posted by: phi at March 12, 2006 02:28 AM

I recently got back from a 3-week trip to New Mexico.

The good news: The PD70X worked great for backing up my 1-gig compact flash cards. I haven't tried upgrading the firmware yet, so I don't have verification. I did do duplicate loads for the first 4 or so full cards, but then decided to just stick with a single download. I had about 25 Gigabytes copied, so that really let me take a lot more photos than if I was limited to my 4 1-gig cards.

The bad news: I had hoped to recharge the Nimh batteries on the PD70X in my car as I traveled. For whatever reason, the recharging never happened. I ended up buying alkaline AA batteries to power the unit. I was able to get something like 10 transfers before I had to change batteries. I was fairly happy with that. One of the reasons I bought the PD70X was because I could use AA batteries, and that turned out to save my trip.

Testing the Nimh batteries with a voltmeter indicate that all 4 are basically dead. Recharging in the car or with the wall transformer have both failed. At this point, I don't know if the problem is in the batteries or in the PD70X. I guess the only solution is to find some new Nimhs and try charging them.

I wonder if the Nimh batteries shipped with the PD70X are really crappy? I sure didn't get much use out of mine if they are bad. I would need a separate battery charger to know for sure.

Posted by: Paul at March 21, 2006 09:55 PM

I think the batteries that shipped from Eastgear for free weren't that good. For some reason only 2 of the batteries will charge for me in my charger (not the PD70X unit, but a powerex charger), so that might be the reason. I'm using Panasonics with mine.

Posted by: phi at March 23, 2006 12:05 AM

It looks a bit chunky but if it does the work... I'm torn between this one and the Espom P4000. I would enjoy looking through my pictures in the evening and deleting the not so hot ones but the price tag for this one is tempting. I am also a 98SE user. Has anyone with 98SE tried either of these models?
Thanks
Jeremy

Posted by: Jeremy at March 28, 2006 05:48 AM

I just got my PD70X today and I think it is a great unit. I got a Pelican hard case 1020 to protect the drive and the size of the case just like custom made fit prefectly into the case. I'm a mac user and I don't have any trouble to copy file into the G5.

Posted by: Stephen at April 3, 2006 07:39 AM

Thanks for the great review. We (my photography job) may be purchasing a few of these for our photographers in the field and while I am sold on the product I am still trying to get my boss sold on it.

I really enjoyed your review, I have my first unit coming this week, I cannot wait to test it out in the field.

Thank you!
--
Ryan

Posted by: Ryan Coleman at April 16, 2006 08:15 PM

1. Thanks for your review phi! It was because of this review that I bought my PD70X!

2.Thanks everybody for sharing your problems/comments!

3.Concerning the PD70X-80GB:
I ordered mine from germany (24traders.net). Shipping etc. was perfect! mine came withe 2500mAh batteries, 2 chargers(wall outlet and car). The separately ordered pelicase seems great as well!
PD70 works great too. Very stable, battery cover could be build out of a stronger material.

BAD/GOOD moments:
bad: While shooting, the PD70x slipped out of my hand (my fault) and fell flat on the LCD-display. I opened it andsaw that a corner of the LCD display was broken off. Even withou a usable display, the unit worked perfectly. However since I plan on taking it on an extended trip, I decided to return it to the reseller for repairing...

good: repairing by salienttrade/24traders.net: LCD unit was exchanged! Very goodcontat by email! Cheap ( 25 � for new diplay unit and shipping). Even during the easter holidays, the whole repair took only 6 working days( including 2x shipping).

SUMMARY: go for it if you need a work-horse without funky color-display. This product seems made for professionals!

PS: They announce a new model( MD80). This model would be able to be powered by the USB-port. this is the only thing I dislike with the PD70Xoor battery performance when used as an external harddrive.

Daniel

Posted by: Daniel at April 22, 2006 07:56 AM

Can PD70X download to Windows 2000 PC? Any problems or anything special I should know about this?

Posted by: robin at May 27, 2006 01:13 PM

What is error 12?
My daughter is using this unit in Europe and it is no longer working.

Posted by: Steven at May 28, 2006 02:40 PM

I recently had the dreaded error 21 when I tried to update to the version 2.1 firmware. I contacted the place where I bought it and they replaced it without charge. I am also having problems with using Ridata Compact Flash cards with the PD70x, it won't even recognise the 512MB 52x card that I have, it recognises the the 4GB 80x cards I have but never manages to transfer the contents without failing around the 1GB mark. It recognises and works with the 1GB black faced Ridata card I have. I've never had a problem with this one, so its the only one I use with my PD70x. What cards work with the PD70x and which ones don't?

Posted by: Tony at June 16, 2006 06:22 PM



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